Cilus85
This is just normal IPS LCD panel with 45% NTSC color gamut, not OLED. Check the Question Answer section where Official Asus has answered the question about it.
3 weeks ago |
Anonymous
The cube outlet is kind of neat. I like that I can plug in 3 large power bricks into it without them bumping into each other. Wish the USB C was higher watts, but it's enough to keep My Macbook running.
14 hours ago |
Anonymous
Does it come with wire or just the charger ?
10 hours ago |
Anonymous
Kidding?
2 months ago |
Anonymous
Can this run iOS?
1 month ago |
Anonymous
Why not? It will be lighting speed using iOS on this device //@anonymous: Can this run iOS?
1 month ago |
Anonymous
Then what about Harmon OS? China's smartphone OS with independent intellectual property rights. //@anonymous: Why not? It will be lighting speed using iOS on this device //@anonymous: Can this run iOS?
1 month ago |
Anonymous
woot, not amazon
16 hours ago |
Anonymous
it is woot, not exactly amazon
16 hours ago |
Anonymous
Keeping your iPhone in a leather MagSafe wallet is just one of many ways you can express your love for your Apple products. Hot!
16 hours ago |
mutongo
updated, thanks. //@anonymous: it is woot, not exactly amazon
15 hours ago |
Anonymous
That's right, this leather wallet has the latest chip which will give your iPhone the best performance //@anonymous: Keeping your iPhone in a leather MagSafe wallet is just one of many ways you can express your love for your Apple products. Hot!
10 hours ago |
Anonymous
is there any improvement on this 2nd generation airpod pro? I thought it has been on the market for quit a while.
7 months ago |
Anonymous
Now apple is forced to add USB-C, thats the only difference //@Anonymous: is there any improvement on this 2nd generation airpod pro? I thought it has been on the market for quit a while.
7 months ago |
Anonymous
it's been this price almost all the time
7 months ago |
Anonymous
Apple reinvented USB-C //@anonymous: Now apple is forced to add USB-C, thats the only difference //@Anonymous: is there any improvement on this 2nd generation airpod pro? I thought it has been on the market for quit a while.
7 months ago |
Anonymous
This USB-C cord is way too easy to be malfunctioned. Just replaced a new cord at Apple Store after 2 and half months use until it stopped charging.
7 months ago |
Anonymous
So they replaced it? What’s the problem then? //@anonymous: This USB-C cord is way too easy to be malfunctioned. Just replaced a new cord at Apple Store after 2 and half months use until it stopped charging.
7 months ago |
Anonymous
7 years later, this mf: APPLE REINVENTED FOLDING TECHNOLOGY!!! //@anonymous: Apple reinvented USB-C //@anonymous: Now apple is forced to add USB-C, thats the only difference //@Anonymous: is there any improvement on this 2nd generation airpod pro? I thought it has been on the market for quit a while.
7 months ago |
Anonymous
Costco has the same price as Amazon expired 11/2/23
6 months ago |
Anonymous
Not only did Apple do a great job fixing the USB-C mess, but they quietly invented folding technology and generously let other manufacturers use it.
4 months ago |
username
Target also had them at $189. Just bought some today.
4 months ago |
Anonymous
In for one at best buy, free one-day shipping, local store, no complaints.
1 month ago |
Anonymous
wait for $149
1 month ago |
Anonymous
It is not suitable for exercising. It got high-pitched sounds caused deaf if it touched your sweat or water. Get Beats Fit Pro is better.
1 week ago |
Anonymous
Target is priced at $249 not $189.
1 week ago |
Anonymous
Oh please. Stop making things up. //@anonymous: It is not suitable for exercising. It got high-pitched sounds caused deaf if it touched your sweat or water. Get Beats Fit Pro is better.
1 week ago |
Anonymous
He's kinda right, but the actual alternative is Shokz Open Run pro which has prolonged battery life and does not weaken your awareness during the workout, especially if you are a runner. //@Anonymous: Oh please. Stop making things up. //@anonymous: It is not suitable for exercising. It got high-pitched sounds caused deaf if it touched your sweat or water. Get Beats Fit Pro is better.
4 days ago |
Anonymous
Alrighty then
2 months ago |
Anonymous
The greatest gift from Apple.
2 months ago |
Anonymous
same price at Bestbuy
2 months ago |
Anonymous
cheap
2 months ago |
Anonymous
Not a deal at all
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Is it a deal?
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Not a deal at all
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Heck yes! This is a great deal! //@anonymous: Is it a deal?
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Nice deal. Thanks!
1 year ago |
Anonymous
walmart increases the price to $599
1 year ago |
Anonymous
not worth it! Gen 9 has much lower price.
5 months ago |
Anonymous
Is it a deal??
5 months ago |
Anonymous
apple-flation .. regular iPads on sale at this price!
4 months ago |
Anonymous
iPad Air
4 months ago |
Anonymous
It’s $1599 in Amazon not $1549
3 weeks ago |
Anonymous
Clip the $49.01 off coupon offered by Amazon. //@anonymous: It’s $1599 in Amazon not $1549
2 weeks ago |
Anonymous
8GB memory is so generous in 2524.
1 month ago |
Anonymous
8gb must be a typo , u mean 16gb?
1 month ago |
niceguy52184
Got me 1.
8 hours ago |
Anonymous
Whoopty doo dah, this is another fine Apple deal!
5 months ago |
Anonymous
Great deal, Apple invented USB-C and pencil
5 months ago |
Anonymous
lol //@anonymous: Great deal, Apple invented USB-C and pencil
3 months ago |
Anonymous
Apple tax isn’t worth it except for the phone //@anonymous: Whoopty doo dah, this is another fine Apple deal!
3 months ago |
Anonymous
Please add "for me". //@Anonymous: Apple tax isn’t worth it except for the phone //@anonymous: Whoopty doo dah, this is another fine Apple deal!
3 months ago |
Anonymous
I have a pen, I have an apple, X, apple pen
2 months ago |
Anonymous
Apple invented Art and Beauty. //@Anonymous: lol //@anonymous: Great deal, Apple invented USB-C and pencil
2 weeks ago |
Anonymous
And love! //@anonymous: Apple invented Art and Beauty. //@Anonymous: lol //@anonymous: Great deal, Apple invented USB-C and pencil
2 weeks ago |
Anonymous
1)App compatibility issue, you have to use Rosetta2 for most software. 2)Unified memory architecture causes extremely excessive rewriting on SSD which is soldered and irreplaceable. //@sza: Don't be the beta testers. There many people who had totally dead M1 Macbook Air and Pros. There are lots of discussions on reddit and other sites. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/m1-macbook-air-wont-power-on.2272304/
2 years ago |
sza
Don't be the beta testers. There many people who had totally dead M1 Macbook Air and Pros. There are lots of discussions on reddit and other sites. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/m1-macbook-air-wont-power-on.2272304/
3 years ago |
Anonymous
for normal computer usage, you cannot ask for anything more. this computer is ideal!
2 years ago |
Anonymous
Much better deal than an iPad Pro
3 years ago |
Anonymous
$899.00 https://www.adorama.com/acmgn93lla.html?&emailprice=t
3 years ago |
Harry
Added to post, thank you. //@anonymous: $899.00 https://www.adorama.com/acmgn93lla.html?&emailprice=t
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Adorama is the worst retailer ever in US. They will cancel or not honor your order especially for discounted items. Be aware! //@Harry: Added to post, thank you. //@anonymous: $899.00 https://www.adorama.com/acmgn93lla.html?&emailprice=t
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Isn’t it $1249 at Costco ?
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Must be a different model //@anonymous: Isn’t it $1249 at Costco ?
3 years ago |
sza
Don't be the beta testers. There many people who had totally dead M1 Macbook Air and Pros. There are lots of discussions on reddit and other sites. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/m1-macbook-air-wont-power-on.2272304/
3 years ago |
Anonymous
It is horrible to install modules in Apple ml to do ML/DL. for example, still don't know how to install pytorch, don't know how to install hdf5 and so on. Don't buy at this moment.
3 years ago |
Anonymous
11.2.3 update fixed the issue with 3rd party usb-c hubs, therefore no more complaints after 4/6 in that macrumors thread. //@sza: Don't be the beta testers. There many people who had totally dead M1 Macbook Air and Pros. There are lots of discussions on reddit and other sites. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/m1-macbook-air-wont-power-on.2272304/
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Costco offers $899
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Use Costco $100 off coupon code, got one for $799, nice deal!
3 years ago |
Anonymous
How did you get the coupon code //@Anonymous: Use Costco $100 off coupon code, got one for $799, nice deal!
3 years ago |
Anonymous
ARM processor. useless for most of STEM professionals
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Isn't it the same price as Apple.com? Why it's a deal?
3 years ago |
Anonymous
it is $100 less than apple.com //@Anonymous: Isn't it the same price as Apple.com? Why it's a deal?
3 years ago |
Anonymous
not really. Just use Rosetta for intel applications. The performance is not too shabby compared to newer intel CPUs.
https://www.macrumors.com/2020/11/15/m1-chip-emulating-x86-benchmark/#:~:text=Despite%20the%20impact%20on%20performance,multi%2Dcore%20score%20of%207%2C433. //@Anonymous: ARM processor. useless for most of STEM professionals
3 years ago |
Anonymous
How to get $100 coupon from Costco ? //@anonymous: How did you get the coupon code //@Anonymous: Use Costco $100 off coupon code, got one for $799, nice deal!
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Costco sent you in email if you are a club member and selected //@Anonymous: How did you get the coupon code //@Anonymous: Use Costco $100 off coupon code, got one for $799, nice deal!
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Will change soon. In the old days, STEM students use Sun workstation and UNIX, now PC, Mac, and Linux. Things keep changing //@Anonymous: ARM processor. useless for most of STEM professionals
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Apple sells $999 //@Anonymous: Isn't it the same price as Apple.com? Why it's a deal?
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Most STEM professionals aren't aware that there are many non-STEM professionals in the world. //@Anonymous: ARM processor. useless for most of STEM professionals
3 years ago |
Anonymous
This is a really nice laptop. Thank you.
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Good price! Is 8GB enough or should go for 16GB?
3 years ago |
Anonymous
8 GB is enough for regular usage and light video editing. //@anonymous: Good price! Is 8GB enough or should go for 16GB?
3 years ago |
Anonymous
for normal computer usage, you cannot ask for anything more. this computer is ideal!
2 years ago |
Anonymous
This watch is amazing and so innovative. All I have to do is look at my wrist and I know what time it is!
1 year ago |
Anonymous
What does your sentence mean? Is it supposed to be English? //@anonymous: Any smart watch feature the blood pressure is a toy //@anonymous: Not good enough until it will feature the blood pressure function.
1 year ago |
Anonymous
I love how the watch face is almost a square but not quite. How did Apple's genius engineers pull that off?
1 year ago |
Anonymous
By Black Friday will be $400.
1 year ago |
Anonymous
I don't see a reason why men should buy series 8 instead of 7..we don't want to monitor temperature :)
1 year ago |
Anonymous
men has men's cycle too. just not period. //@Anonymous: I don't see a reason why men should buy series 8 instead of 7..we don't want to monitor temperature :)
1 year ago |
Anonymous
always get the latest product
1 year ago |
Anonymous
I know! I love Apple because they give us something new to buy every year! //@anonymous: always get the latest product
1 year ago |
Anonymous
temperature monitor is useful if you get infection or covid, your watch will tell you if you have fever. Never having to use a thermometer again. That's a relief. Now if watch can also measure blood pressure and blood glucose. May be watch 9 and 10.
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Agree with you…it should automatically send my temp to covid tracers…. and don’t forget about alcohol level in the blood… //@anonymous: temperature monitor is useful if you get infection or covid, your watch will tell you if you have fever. Never having to use a thermometer again. That's a relief. Now if watch can also measure blood pressure and blood glucose. May be watch 9 and 10.
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Touching your forehead with the screen gives better results //@anonymous: temperature monitor is useful if you get infection or covid, your watch will tell you if you have fever. Never having to use a thermometer again. That's a relief. Now if watch can also measure blood pressure and blood glucose. May be watch 9 and 10.
1 year ago |
Anonymous
This is gold. Using my hand can give very reliable measurement as whether I need to take Tylenol or not. //@Anonymous: Touching your forehead with the screen gives better results //@anonymous: temperature monitor is useful if you get infection or covid, your watch will tell you if you have fever. Never having to use a thermometer again. That's a relief. Now if watch can also measure blood pressure and blood glucose. May be watch 9 and 10.
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Not good enough until it will feature the blood pressure function.
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Any smart watch feature the blood pressure is a toy //@anonymous: Not good enough until it will feature the blood pressure function.
1 year ago |
Anonymous
What does your sentence mean? Is it supposed to be English? //@anonymous: Any smart watch feature the blood pressure is a toy //@anonymous: Not good enough until it will feature the blood pressure function.
1 year ago |
Anonymous
$50 saving?
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Given that it is just a couple weeks away from BF, I'd just wait, and perhaps wait till the end of the year. If the sales don't go well on BF, there will be further discount. I am on my AW series 3 lol //@hanwuji319: early buy early enjoy, late buy enjoy discount //@Anonymous: By Black Friday will be $400.
1 year ago |
Anonymous
This watch is amazing and so innovative. All I have to do is look at my wrist and I know what time it is!
1 year ago |
Anonymous
huh? Your crosseyes did not see weather, temperature, your heart rate and your text messates. //@Anonymous: This watch is amazing and so innovative. All I have to do is look at my wrist and I know what time it is!
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Sams Club has the same deal
1 year ago |
Anonymous
What even are messates anyway? //@Anonymous: huh? Your crosseyes did not see weather, temperature, your heart rate and your text messates. //@Anonymous: This watch is amazing and so innovative. All I have to do is look at my wrist and I know what time it is!
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Watch good me thinks is //@anonymous: What even are messates anyway? //@Anonymous: huh? Your crosseyes did not see weather, temperature, your heart rate and your text messates. //@Anonymous: This watch is amazing and so innovative. All I have to do is look at my wrist and I know what time it is!
1 year ago |
Anonymous
I love how the watch face is almost a square but not quite. How did Apple's genius engineers pull that off?
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Apple only hires the smartest and most innovative engineers. //@anonymous: I love how the watch face is almost a square but not quite. How did Apple's genius engineers pull that off?
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Wait what? Please explain. //@anonymous: men has men's cycle too. just not period. //@Anonymous: I don't see a reason why men should buy series 8 instead of 7..we don't want to monitor temperature :)
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Yeah, my cycle is 24*7*365 days long, always bustling with testosterone.. //@anonymous: Wait what? Please explain. //@anonymous: men has men's cycle too. just not period. //@Anonymous: I don't see a reason why men should buy series 8 instead of 7..we don't want to monitor temperature :)
1 year ago |
Anonymous
The only one priced at $255 already sold out. All the other variations are the old price.
7 months ago |
Anonymous
Target oos
2 months ago |
Anonymous
The ban was from the U.S. International Trade Commission (ITC) //@anonymous: How can Apple get rid of its inventory if there is a ban? //@anonymous: After ban on this watch, I assume this watch will be sold with heavy discount as Apple has to get rid of inventory
1 month ago |
Anonymous
45mm is 359 not 329
5 months ago |
Anonymous
$329 for 45mm with s/m wrist band. m/l is still $359 //@anonymous: 45mm is 359 not 329
5 months ago |
Anonymous
Midnight S/M, 45mm is 329 //@anonymous: 45mm is 359 not 329
5 months ago |
Anonymous
I don't get why the prices change so much. I was able to get a midnight m/l for $329 but now $359. Crazy prices hope this is the lowest. So far better than Costco pricing.
5 months ago |
Anonymous
Yesterday was 319
5 months ago |
Anonymous
Today is today. You can't go back in time.. //@anonymous: Yesterday was 319
5 months ago |
Anonymous
Not today but maybe tomorrow //@anonymous: Today is today. You can't go back in time.. //@anonymous: Yesterday was 319
5 months ago |
Anonymous
today is tommorow's yesterday //@Anonymous: Not today but maybe tomorrow //@anonymous: Today is today. You can't go back in time.. //@anonymous: Yesterday was 319
5 months ago |
Anonymous
Can Apple watch travel like a time machine? //@Anonymous: today is tommorow's yesterday //@Anonymous: Not today but maybe tomorrow //@anonymous: Today is today. You can't go back in time.. //@anonymous: Yesterday was 319
5 months ago |
Anonymous
miss that village. won't have another shop. //@Anonymous: Yesterday was 319
5 months ago |
Anonymous
If you put a apple watch in time machine, it will travel. //@Anonymous: Can Apple watch travel like a time machine? //@Anonymous: today is tommorow's yesterday //@Anonymous: Not today but maybe tomorrow //@anonymous: Today is today. You can't go back in time.. //@anonymous: Yesterday was 319
5 months ago |
Anonymous
After ban on this watch, I assume this watch will be sold with heavy discount as Apple has to get rid of inventory
4 months ago |
Anonymous
How can Apple get rid of its inventory if there is a ban? //@anonymous: After ban on this watch, I assume this watch will be sold with heavy discount as Apple has to get rid of inventory
4 months ago |
Anonymous
Ordered on 12/8, expected to arrive by 12/24, just got delayed till 12/28.
4 months ago |
Anonymous
haha apple watches banned in US. how beautiful!
4 months ago |
Anonymous
They can just dump these devices to other countries. These are not ban for any technical reason. The price in US will only go up because they will be out of stock soon. //@Anonymous: After ban on this watch, I assume this watch will be sold with heavy discount as Apple has to get rid of inventory
4 months ago |
Anonymous
You make no sense at all //@anonymous: After ban on this watch, I assume this watch will be sold with heavy discount as Apple has to get rid of inventory
4 months ago |
Anonymous
Did you get it? //@anonymous: Ordered on 12/8, expected to arrive by 12/24, just got delayed till 12/28.
4 months ago |
Anonymous
The ban was from the U.S. International Trade Commission (ITC) //@anonymous: How can Apple get rid of its inventory if there is a ban? //@anonymous: After ban on this watch, I assume this watch will be sold with heavy discount as Apple has to get rid of inventory
1 month ago |
dealsea.com
Order Summary
Items: $3,699.99
Shipping & handling: $0.00
Your Coupon Savings: -$500.00
Total before tax: $3,199.99
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Amazing machine with a great screen; however, the 1080P OLED screen, amazing, resolution is bit low when viewed up close. Get the Pro model with a 3K OLED panel.
5 months ago |
Anonymous
But be careful, Amazon sellers also sell the fake variant.
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Yes, these buds are far, far better than any others and this price is good. There is a reason why you see so many people using AirPods and nobody uses other brands. //@Anonymous: is this a good deal?
1 year ago |
Anonymous
is this a good deal?
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Yes, these buds are far, far better than any others and this price is good. There is a reason why you see so many people using AirPods and nobody uses other brands. //@Anonymous: is this a good deal?
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Same chip as Gen 2.
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Costco has the same price.
1 year ago |
Anonymous
149.99 at Costco //@Anonymous: Costco has the same price.
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Most amazing!
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Boy howdy, it is a great deal! //@anonymous: is this a good deal?
1 year ago |
Anonymous
I lost track, is 3rd generation the latest/current ?
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Yes - Gen 3 is the latest for the regular Airpods. For 'Pro" version, the latest is Gen 2 //@Anonymous: I lost track, is 3rd generation the latest/current ?
1 year ago |
Anonymous
But be careful, Amazon sellers also sell the fake variant.
1 year ago |
Anonymous
Bought a pair thanks
1 year ago |
Anonymous
They are the best
1 year ago |
Anonymous
HOT deal!!
1 year ago |
Anonymous
super hot. gen 3! //@anonymous: HOT deal!!
1 year ago |
Anonymous
4Th generation is coming
1 year ago |
Anonymous
YES!! When?!? I’m getting this 3rd Gen. now but I’ll be ready to get Gen. 4 as soon as it comes out! :D //@anonymous: 4Th generation is coming
1 year ago |
Anonymous
It’s not hot deal, it’s good deal if you are planning to buy now, only $20 off.
1 year ago |
Anonymous
These work great for music, gaming or even phone calls, unlike competing products. There is literally nothing Apple cannot do better than other companies.
1 year ago |
Anonymous
WOW! AWESOME!!
1 year ago |
Anonymous
How about siri? Also there is nothing Apple can’t charge less than other companies. //@anonymous: These work great for music, gaming or even phone calls, unlike competing products. There is literally nothing Apple cannot do better than other companies.
1 year ago |
Anonymous
169.99 at costco
11 months ago |
Anonymous
It is also good because many people (including me) don't like the plug in the Pro version.
8 months ago |
Anonymous
No noise cancellation at this price range? //@Anonymous: Yes, these buds are far, far better than any others and this price is good. There is a reason why you see so many people using AirPods and nobody uses other brands. //@Anonymous: is this a good deal?
4 months ago |
Anonymous
Till end of month, Costco has them for $139 in the store
2 months ago |
Anonymous
Costco: Apple AirPods (3rd Generation) with MagSafe Charging Case for $139.99 #skc
2 months ago |
Anonymous
Because it is the characteristics of the lithium-ion battery //@anonymous: How’d you know that? It hasn’t been 2 years yet since AirPods 2 was released? //@BBQ: The problem for those wireless Headsets is the battery only last for 2 years. They can’t hold charges for long after that.
2 years ago |
Anonymous
These are just what my audiophile ears have been asking for!
11 months ago |
Anonymous
Good find.
3 years ago |
Anonymous
amazon is selling at 99.99 now
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Whoever got $10 Off $20 Amazon coupon can apply to this purchase if you still have it.
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Amazon is wired. Cosco is wireless
3 years ago |
cheetah
They are the same. Wireless headphones with wired charging case. //@Anonymous: Amazon is wired. Cosco is wireless
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Best Buy has already changed the price back to 129
3 years ago |
Anonymous
They are both wired charging but wireless headphone. //@anonymous: Amazon is wired. Cosco is wireless
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Are these the ones that Apple removed from new iPhone boxes?
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Nope. Apple removed wired earphones. These are wireless. //@Anonymous: Are these the ones that Apple removed from new iPhone boxes?
3 years ago |
Anonymous
How is comparing to the Beets headphonies?
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Price match with target and get 5% extra discount.
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Picked up at Target with Price Match plus 5% target red card discount!!
3 years ago |
Anonymous
The difference between walmart, target and amazon is with the type of extended warranty u can get with it!
3 years ago |
Anonymous
BB and Target are charging more. WTF...
3 years ago |
Anonymous
i prefer Costco, 90 days return policy for electronics.
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Good deal, got one from Costco today
3 years ago |
Anonymous
I see $139.99 at Costco, is deal dead?
3 years ago |
cheetah
Yes, expired now. It will come back later around Black Friday. //@anonymous: I see $139.99 at Costco, is deal dead?
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Theres a coupon apparently. They will honor the 109 with coupon //@cheetah: Yes, expired now. It will come back later around Black Friday. //@anonymous: I see $139.99 at Costco, is deal dead?
3 years ago |
Anonymous
I got it from Amazon for $99. I don't know from where the $10 discount came, which was called "app second purchase"
3 years ago |
Anonymous
bought one from COSTCO two weeks ago when it was on sale at $99
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Bestbuy price is $119
3 years ago |
Anonymous
Amazon link points to wired version
3 years ago |
Harry
That is the correct one, the wired is for the charging case, not the earphones. //@anonymous: Amazon link points to wired version
3 years ago |
Anonymous
A lot of you misunderstands the item.
"Apple AirPods WIRELESS Headphones...with Charging Case".
It doesn't say the case is wireless.
3 years ago |